Loans are assumed late after their due date at 11:59:59pm PST has passed.
Refer to this for the loan ledger: /Tumbles/will-tumbles-ever-be-late-to-pay-ba
All market answers are relative to @Tumbles experiences. @Tumbles may choose not to answer any unprovable market answers if he wishes to.
We'll do our best to ensure these get resolved in ways that make the most sense. Expect some potential clerical challenges. Don't expect this market to be taken too seriously.
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Update 2025-06-10 (PST) (✅ Market Creator approved AI summary of creator comment): * Once the loan ledger for @Tumbles shows 0 loans:
All market answers that have not already met their conditions to resolve YES will resolve NO.
New loans taken by @Tumbles after this point (when the ledger first showed 0 loans) will not count towards this market.
Update 2025-06-19 (PST) (✅ Market Creator approved AI summary of creator comment): For the answer 'Tumbles-related prediction markets', the creator has proposed the following resolution logic:
The count of 24 markets is tied to a specific overdue loan.
The count starts when a loan becomes overdue.
If that specific loan is paid back, the count for its lateness stops.
A new count would begin if a different loan becomes overdue.
Therefore, for this answer to resolve YES, more than 24 Tumbles-related markets must be created while a specific loan remains continuously overdue.
Update 2025-06-19 (PST) (✅ Market Creator approved AI summary of creator comment): The creator has clarified the general logic for all answers in this market:
Resolution is based on individual, specific loans, not a general "state of default."
A lateness count begins when a specific loan becomes overdue.
The count for that loan stops permanently once it is paid back.
A new, separate count would begin if a different loan becomes overdue. Lateness is not cumulative across different loans.
Update 2025-06-24 (PST) (✅ Market Creator approved AI summary of creator comment): For the answer corresponding to days of lateness:
This answer will resolve YES if the June 8th loans remain overdue at the start of July 3rd. The creator specifies this is the point at which the condition of being "more than 24 days late" is met.
Update 2026-01-16 (PST) (✅ Market Creator approved AI summary of creator comment): User-submitted entries have been disabled. No new answers can be added to this market by users.
Update 2026-01-17 (PST) (✅ Market Creator approved AI summary of creator comment): For the answer 'New loans taken (since this market's creation, only counts loans created while a loan is due)': loans to @Orangey will count towards this answer's resolution.
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@Quroe from the openai blog I count:
1) o3-pro
2) ChatGPT agent (it's a little ambiguous whether this is a "model", but the blog post refers to it as such in several places, so let's say yes)
3) gpt-oss
4) gpt-5-main
5) gpt-5-main-mini
6) gpt-5-thinking
7) gpt-5-thinking-mini
8) gpt-5-thinking-nano
9) gpt-5-thinking-pro
10) gpt-realtime
11) gpt-5-codex
12) Sora 2
13) gpt-oss-safeguard-120b
14) gpt-oss-safeguard-20b (it's a little ambiguous whether I should count these, but the blog post is tagged "release" so sure)
15) gpt-5.1-thinking
16) gpt-5.1-instant (where was gpt-5-instant? they compare gpt-5.1-instant to gpt-5-instant in the model card, but it was never mentioned in an announcement?)
17) gpt‑5.1-codex-max
18) gpt-5.2-instant
19) gpt-5.2-thinking
20) GPT Image 1.5
21) gpt-5.2-codex
@jcb I'm going to stay out of trading in that one in case there's a corner case I have to make a judgement call on. Anyone else can take the alpha.
@100Anonymous If Tumbles paid back all the June 8th loans today, he would be exactly 24 days late, but not more than 24 days late.
I have an item in my calendar to resolve this tomorrow.
@Quroe For any of the other markets, consider the +1 day rule as a general rule. The day of the the 24th week mark doesn't trigger resolution, but the second that day passes, it is eligible for YES.
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Mods are empowered to resolve "Days" at any point tomorrow if a Tumbles loan due on June 8th is still outstanding.
I am busy in the morning and may forgo opening the app in the morning.
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@jcb I would certainly say it was created, but I think we should also ask if that is what this market is counting in the first place, now that I think about it. What even is a time unit of a "Tumbles-related prediction market"? @KJW_01294, was this the intent? If no response is given in the next 7 days, I will N/A it for ambiguity.
@Quroe aw sorry didn’t see this, my goal would have been to resolve YES if more than 24 prediction markets mentioning Tumbles are created after Tumbles is in default. So it’s a unit of time, but is variable
@KJW_01294 Ah, okay! If you want to ping mods in a request to unresolve it, we can do that. (I consent to it reopening.) Or we can leave it N/A'd; your choice.
I would ask that I get some assistance tracking this if we do bring it back online because this one requires a lot of effort to track. I imagine that every single unpaid debt spawns it's own timeline of Tumbles markets to track. It's not just that we're looking for when 24 markets are made and asking if there is still any unpaid debt.
For example, if 24 Tumbles markets were made since this market's creation, but the Tumbles debt ledger has been repaid such that the oldest debt is only 1 day overdue, and only 1 Tumbles market has been made in that 1 day, it would not resolve YES, as I understand it.
How would you like to proceed?