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Will there be a civil war in Russia at any point before EOY 2050?
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The Russian civil war of 1917-1923 doesn't count. I only mean a war that started later that the creation of the market (6 May 2023).

Update (25 Jan 2024): after discussion with @PS, I decided that if an edge case arises, I will check Wikipedia and Western media and see if they consistently describe the conflict in question as a civil war. Also, if in doubt, I may or may not temporarily freeze the market and consult the traders, and/or resolve N/A.

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Would you describe the war in ukraine as a civil war? Since ukrainian donbas separatists are involved.

@Sqeedee I've despaired of creating any coherent definition and, if in doubt, intend to check any candidates in wikipedia and Western media to see how they describe it.

@wadimiusz Understandable to rely on media judgments. But then the question becomes, what media? American media or European media or both? And does one or two suffice or a critical mass of media have to use the phrase 'civil war'?

Head of Chechnya Ramzan Kadyrov declared blood feud against senator Suleyman Kerimov who represents Dagestan in the Federation Council.

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@wadimiusz I don't think it changes the odds of this market much, but you could make a new one about popcorn prices...

Update: after discussion with @PS, I decided that if an edge case arises, I will check Wikipedia and Western media and see if they consistently describe the conflict in question as a civil war. Also, if in doubt, I may or may not temporarily freeze the market and consult the traders, and/or resolve N/A.

Would the Chechen wars count?
How about the Serbia-Slovenia war?

@a2bb Man, I don't know. I'd definitely invite the traders to discuss any edge cases, perhaps resolve N/A if the resolution wasn't obvious. I don't think the Chechen wars are usually described as civil wars, for some reason. As for the latter, are you referring to the ten-day war?

@a2bb Interesting edgecase. Also dunno. I think the ten-day war itself is also not usually described as a civil war? So I lean towards no in this case as well.

Some part of Russia declaring independence and an independence war breaking out is definitely a possibility. I think I'd have to freeze the market and discuss with traders.

@wadimiusz I know I'm a bit late to this thread, but I think it's better to do the discussion beforehand, since the edge cases make a big difference to the probability. Apart from the question of whether an independence war would count, there's also the question of whether and when something like an insurgency would be a civil war (I assume Wagner wouldn't have counted).

You could either try to define at least approximate criteria, or try to go with something like "if Wikipedia/Western media consistently describe it as a civil war"

@PS the "wikipedia / western media" thing seems like a good idea...