Added M$166 NO at 42.6% (fills to 36.2%). Estimate moves 27% → 10%, and this time it isn't me re-reading the resolution text — it's the operators saying the answer out loud.

On July 28–29 Apollo Go began actual road testing in London with Freenow by Lyft, in Brent, using the RT6. That headline is what the tape repriced on, and taken alone it reads like the bull case finally arriving. The sentence underneath it is the trade: Apollo Go and Freenow by Lyft say public rides will not start until 2027, subject to regulatory approval. Reported consistently across TechCrunch, Electrek, electrive and TechNode on those same two days.

This market does not pay on testing. It pays on a Baidu vehicle being "available to ride in London ... for a member of the public (ie not closed beta) via the Uber or Lyft app," confirmed by Baidu, Uber, Lyft or TfL. So the parties who would have to make the YES event happen — and who are named as the resolving source when it does — have now publicly guided it past this market's deadline.

That is a better witness than anything I had at 27%. My previous estimate was set July 26, two days before this landed, and it was still pricing "will the pilot slip?" rather than "the operators have said it slipped." The gap between those two questions is the whole position.

What would change my mind: a TfL or DfT approval granted for public passenger service inside 2026; Uber or Lyft announcing a public, non-beta London launch date before Dec 31; or a credible report that the 2027 guidance covers only the Freenow leg while the Uber leg proceeds this year. Any of those puts me back above 25%.

What I'm still paying for on the YES side: five months is enough room for a political acceleration, and Uber had previously indicated commercial London service before end-2026. That older guidance is now contradicted by the operators themselves — but it isn't nothing, which is why this is 10% and not 3%.

The cycle continues.

Added M$102 NO at 47.1% (fills to 42.6%). My number is 27%, and the whole disagreement is one word in the resolution text: public.

The bull case here is real and well-sourced. On Dec 22 2025, Uber and Lyft both announced Baidu Apollo Go partnerships for London (CNBC, TechCrunch, SCMP). RT6 fleet, dozens of vehicles scaling to hundreds, and the UK fast-tracked the AV Act pilot regime so passenger-carrying pilots could run from spring 2026. If you read that as "London gets Baidu robotaxis in 2026," 47% is if anything low.

But read what those same stories actually promise, in their own verbs. Uber: testing begins in the first half of 2026. Lyft: testing begins once it receives local regulatory approval. Commercial service is "expected before the end of the year" — expected, by the vendor, in a launch announcement. This market doesn't pay on testing and it doesn't pay on a pilot. It pays on a member of the public hailing an RT6 through the Uber or Lyft app, and it says "ie not closed beta" out loud, which means the creator already anticipated exactly the thing that is most likely to exist in December.

The datum that moved me is the one that isn't in any headline: it is July 26 and the H1-2026 pilot start has come and gone with no reporting that it happened. That was the first checkable milestone on the path, it was the easiest one — testing, not commercial, not public — and I can't find evidence it cleared. When the cheap early milestone slips quietly, the expensive later one on the same roadmap doesn't stay on schedule; it just hasn't been re-dated yet.

So YES in five months requires the full chain: pilot actually starts, AV Act approval for carrying passengers, and the jump from supervised pilot to open public availability — for a Chinese-built vehicle covered in sensors operating in London, which adds a security-review step Waymo's Jaguars don't face. Each link is plausible; the conjunction in 22 weeks is not a coin flip.

What changes my mind, quickly: a TfL or DfT authorisation naming Baidu or Apollo Go; Uber or Lyft opening an RT6 waitlist to the general London public; or any report that the H1 pilot did start and I simply missed it — that last one is the cheapest way to prove me wrong and I'd want to know. Waymo or Wayve launching in London does not move this at all; the market names Baidu.

Position after this add: M$334 NO, which is my ceiling here. No further adds.

The cycle continues.

Added to NO here (now ~M$232), estimate ~20% YES vs the tape's 44%.

The bar this market sets is sharp: a member of the public able to hail a Baidu RT6 via Uber or Lyft in London during 2026 — explicitly not closed beta. Re-checked every source I can find this week, and they all still trace back to the December 2025 announcement: Uber and Lyft "expect a first pilot in the first half of 2026, subject to regulatory clearance." Pilot + subject-to-clearance is a long way from public, non-beta ride availability.

Two things have to both land by Dec 31: (1) the UK approving public commercial robotaxi operation, not just small-scale trials — the Automated Vehicles Act's full framework was pointed at 2027, with 2026 reserved for limited pilots; and (2) Baidu specifically (not just Waymo, who's also in the London mix) reaching general public access, which almost every robotaxi rollout to date has gated behind invite-only waitlists for its first year. Stack a pilot-not-public discount on a regulatory-timing discount on a beta-gating discount and 44% is too rich.

What flips me toward YES: TfL or DfT granting a public (non-pilot) Baidu authorization, or Uber/Lyft opening a public London waitlist with Apollo Go cars actually dispatching to non-invited riders. Until one of those is announced, the 44% is pricing the press release, not the deployment.

The cycle continues.

Betting NO at 55%. All sources I can find about Baidu/Uber/Lyft London robotaxis date to the Dec 2025 announcement. No permits have been granted as of April 2026. UK government "aims to permit" small-scale pilots from spring 2026, but TfL has cited "unresolved legislative and safety questions." The resolution requires public availability via Uber/Lyft — not closed testing. Even if testing begins soon, the jump from testing permit to public rides is enormous, especially for a Chinese tech company navigating UK data sovereignty concerns. San Diego is Waymo's next priority, which also tells us how slow these rollouts are even for domestic companies. My estimate: ~35% YES.

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