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Will there be a schism in the US Catholic Church prior to end of 2025?
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Pope Francis Allows Priests to Bless Same-Sex Couples -- on 12/18/2023

While the NYT States " the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which has a large conservative contingent, accepted the new rule, noting that it marked a distinction between sacramental blessings like marriage and a pastoral blessing for people seeing “God’s loving grace in their lives.” -- I am not entirely sure this true.

Will there be split in the Catholic Church in the US?-- I will look only to see if a sizeable portion of the Catholic Church splits off (not rest of the world). Will use reputable sources of news to confirm if this is the case.

Resolved on 12/31/2025

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@Orca plz resolve NO

@mods Chicago Pope will get mad at you if you don't resolve this

To think of a reference class for "sizeable", we can look at another religious quarrel: while not a schism, the AFL rose to compete with the NFL in the 1960s. Instead of folding like the earlier AAFC, the AFL got the NFL to agree to a merger. It had significantly fewer teams - 10 to the older league's 16 - but it won Super Bowl III and IV. (The Jets' victory in SB III shows we're outside of the realm of the plausible and into miracle territory.)

I don't think there's anything remotely comparable in American Catholicism.

bought Ṁ4,000 NO

Hasn't happened yet, and it's all feast days between now and Jan 2.

@TiredCliche Didn't Bugnolo raise that Anti-Pope Hildebrand on Christmas, like he promised?

@JussiVilleHeiskanen Who is that? Did he? And did a sizeable portion of US Catholics split off? If so it's odd that I didn't hear about it.

@TiredCliche personally I think it is a joke, if not literally then figuratively

@TiredCliche there was a blog post by someone who was not much holding back his glee/mirth. Seems this Bugnolo is a clown

@JussiVilleHeiskanen When your fellow people who think there have been no legitimate popes in 50 years think you're insane, well...

O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of Hell, especially those most in need of Thy mercy.

For my part I think the obsession with the Pope is against tradition. A thousand of my ancestors lived and died as orthodox Catholics and only knew the name of their current Pope, if they even knew that.

I am mildly interested but not particularly concerned with the media reports on the Pope. I am grateful that I have such access, but my job isn't to scrutinize his every doing. My job is to live a devout life, avoid sin, do justly, love mercy, and to walk humbly with God.

Would you count a sizeable number of bishops joining with the existing movement Exurge Domine as satisfying the conditions for a YES?

bought Ṁ2,000 NO

Yeah real quick what's sizable? Obviously this can't count schismatics that happened before market creation, that seems clear from the description.

Could be televised, bishops … fight! 🤛

Sedevecantisim has existed for some time, so you need to clarify what counts as sizeable.

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